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The distinction between work and hobbies is an interesting capitalist construct (the former being what you must do to live; the latter, what you’re passionate about and enjoy doing.) Under capitalism, work is what you do to sponsor the hobbies of your bosses.
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progressivist_penguin
progressivist_penguin
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A bitter truth so well expressed.
What is more unfortunate is that a large section of the exploited will yet deny to confront this truth.
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Hart of the Wud
Hart of the Wud
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Totally! The protestant work ethic has really formed the base idea that "work" has to, by definition, suck. That you need to suffer if you want to be paid. This can then be used to justify poor working conditions. On the other side it can also justify paying people like artists, terribly, because they actually experience some pleasure in their work.

It also means that one very cool resistance strategy to the whole bad machinery it to practice Savoir Vivre. Those "passionate" corporate folks can buy colorful slides and Foosball tables but they know deep down that their essential activities are joyless. Many of us, not playing the game, are having a lot of fun and looking good doing it!
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Br0m3x
Br0m3x
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have you lived in a communist or socialist country?
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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
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Because if you criticise capitalism you must be a communist, right? How are the 1950s doing today? Spoken to McCarthy recently?
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Br0m3x
Br0m3x
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Did I say that? I only asked you if you ever lived in a communist country?
If you heard about McCarthy you're probably aware that after WWII in many western countries "communism" was a hype like nowadays. It's a common thing in times of struggle.
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Torsten
Torsten
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@Br0m3x @Aral Balkan: I lived in DDR, a self proclaimed socialist country till 1990, and @Aral Balkan's thesis about the difference between work and hobby being a capitalist construction makes total sense to me.
@Aral Balkan @Br0m3x
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muppeth
muppeth
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@Br0m3x @Aral Balkan Yeah not really sure this is exclusive to capitalism. behind iron courtain hobby was that evil western invention taking your focus away from what really was important in life, "building bigger and better nation for all the proletariat united", doing "150% norm" and all that shit.

That said, I have recently decided that I had enough of this concept and decided to quit my job and turn my hobbies and stuff i love doing into something that will put food on my table. Still 2 more weeks of my dayjob to go and I sail on the unknown, uncertain waters :).
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Torsten
Torsten
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@muppeth @Aral Balkan @Br0m3x "behind iron courtain hobby was that evil western invention" That's the first time I hear that. How do you know that? I had many hobbies in DDR (collecting stamps, horse riding, hiking) , so had my parents (growing cactuesses, bobbin lace...)
@Aral Balkan @muppeth @Br0m3x
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Br0m3x
Br0m3x
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:) horse riding... Wow:)))
Did your parents work for government?:)
I collected stamps and cans.:)
@aral @muppeth
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Torsten
Torsten
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@Br0m3x @Aral Balkan @muppeth: My parents worked as gardeners for semi-private/semi-collective nurseries.
Actually I didn't like the horse riding, at first it was interesting, but there weren't enough horses for all children.
Friends of mine collected cans from the west, there where none in the east. I guess it was a status symbol.
You still have your stamps? Maybe we can swap? =)
@Aral Balkan @muppeth @Br0m3x
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Arne Babenhauserheide
Arne Babenhauserheide
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The concept of a hobby is a construct of prosperity. There have always been things you had to do to survive. In a society with high inequality, part of that involves financing the hobbies of those you have to pay ransom to: the king, the pope, the knight, the landowner, the neighborhood gang.
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