oh i so wanna reshare that... but it still uses the psyop phrase "conspiracy theorist", even though it's dispelling the blatant deceptions. tis a mere fleck of blue in that red pill... maybe it's just a homeopathic dose. n_n ok, it's worthy. ;D

Conspiracy theorists, foil tin hat, are some of the adjectives people dedicate to those whistle blowers posting different information to the one given to the public through the MSM daily.

@Digit I understood it as sarcasm and they calling the "sheeple" the real conspiracy theorists, don't you agree?

I understood it as sarcasm and they calling the “sheeple” the real conspiracy theorists, don’t you agree?

I'm just wary and concerned for those to whom this will not be apparent, and it'll affirm that phrase as valid, unquestioned. Even if they don't get that ["conspiracy theorists" is a psyop term that abuses them, dissuading due questioning authority], then maybe they'll at least get shaken out of their cognitive dissonance as they see past their prior unquestioned beliefs that government cares, media never misleads/lies, and that for profit pharma's healing them. and realising that, is why i re-shared, after weighing it up.

:)

but can we agree that something like flat earth theory or chemtrails ARE conspiracy theories?

funny guy. :P no, the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks.

Is it still "a "conspiracy"" when there are publicly traded companies offering services for, and conferences promoting deployment of, various forms of the idea? let alone theory.

I remember seeing evergreen avionics way back... i forget when now... 2004? and I thought "What gall! The people will see this and rise up.". What a fool.

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and flat earth's a good thought experiment to see how far you can keep coming up with new contrivances to explain how it could be flat despite appearances to the contrary, or to shift your reference plane (like playing flatland, and trying imagine the 4th dimension and up, to imagining the 10th dimension), or simply to challenge someone to experiment to give evidence to back up their claim it's round/spherical/globe, rather than just presuming and proclaiming (like many flat earthers do ~ lol, oh the irony so many miss). it's not all just fools to be dismissed to help you feel superior; to help prevent you entertaining other perspectives. ... like the term "conspiracy theorist" does.

It’s neutrally saying, there’s a theory that there is a conspiracy.

Bold claim. An assertion thrown out fallaciously. I strain to conceive of a use of it that is not a fallacious misdirect.

Epistemologists must utterly baulk at seeing it so rife.

I mean, jesus, who would have thought that GCHQ is tapping subsea cables to spy on the whole atlantean internet traffic? No conspiracy theory probably would have gone that far, but yet it’s entirely true.

and how casually and normalised you deploy the term. And yet, people were pointing out this was going on for decades before Snowden. ... people who would have had the label "conspiracy theorist" thrown at them by the spook agencies to discredit them and such claims, to discourage others rightly investigating the authorities to hold them to account.

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because where is the secrecy that belongs to a conspiracy?

Yep. So many seem so deep into the induction that even the very word "conspiracy" (without being suffixed with theory) is now a synonym for falsehood to them. As if no one would ever conspire. As if the idea is laughable and readily dismissed without investigation. Of course no one would ever conspire, especially not when there's massive gains for them to be had. And then all manner of atrocities get to proceed, unchallenged, even unhidden, in plain sight, for those who would even bother to look, and yet so few do look, because who wants to appear like a "conspiracy theorist"?... regardless of the fact that they were not coming up with any theories, and that the plans are not only laid bare, but promoted. If you so deploy that little due diligence and follow a little casual research, as aught be respected as the duty of everybody in a democracy, then there's a whole lot of horror to face up to in the revelations.

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so you think Al quaeda doesn’t exist and Bin Laden is a retard and everything was done by Falcons so they can sell more weapons and invade Iraq again?

Quite the spurious leap and characterisation. A rhetorical style befitting of shilling for the man. Heh.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th"

"A lone gunman."

lol.

Do tell, how does one fit a 757 in a pentagon shaped hole?

n_n

y'know?

(and in context: https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/08/01/bill-hicks-revelations-1993-full-transcript/ / (Revelations, so relevant today, in so many ways, tragically prophetic in our ignorance and capitulation, right down to the "pretty soon we'll all be locked in our homes")).

"back and to the left, back and to the left, back and to the left... "

"...And that's why Kennedy's head~ blew~ off~~ What time's gladiators on? Are we missing it? whoo-wee, I'm so glad we're free."

It's like when someone identifies as a skeptic, they really affirm they're not. Quite similarly as when someone proclaims they have the most humility. ;)

A yes or no would not do to such a troll question.

I answered sufficient.

... and if you're asking again, it seems you didn't quite grok the meaning of:

Do tell, how does one fit a 757 in a pentagon shaped hole?

nor the rest, it would seem.

Osama Bin Laden's an interesting character, with an interesting history, an interesting tool/agent, that reveals much, if you spend some time investigating.

But further, (less ambiguously / less nebulously), if the "how to fit a 757 in a pentagon shaped hole" isnt enough, consider "pull it", building 7 (proclaimed fallen on the news when in sight over the shoulder of the reporter, text-book controlled demolition, and why (and how not)), the missing gold, the timing of execs being away, the "construction" work done in the preceding days, the fighter jets that had scrambled, told to head back... for just a few other easy pieces to broaden the picture beyond the misdirect binary did-he/didn't-he.

Lots to look into, to do your own research and thinking.

No need to rhetorically faux-interrogate others for what they think, let alone when they've already laid out sufficient spread for you. n_n

Happy websearching and contemplating. :)

@Blutpumpe

funny guy. :P no, the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks.

XD ;P :D #S

yup.

when bush jr said “Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th”, i bet he made his cia daddy proud.

I dont for a femto second think bush jr really thinks that. it's an outright deception, put out there to misdirect others. so can't reliably call it a theory of his. and so, also... again:

funny guy. :P no, the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks.

;D lol. (even though, that is a better use of it, same as in the original post's image).

but then... we can pick and choose which definition of theory we go with... so maybe we can still legitimately use that psyop phrase, and keep discouraging anyone from questioning the nefarious dominator kleptocrat/oligarch plans.

#Orwell

" AND THERE'S NOT SUCH THING AS PSYCHOPATHS" could be added to the sign.

@Blutpumpe The hospitals are empty!! There are no Covid19 patients in the hospitals!!

the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks.

Very true indeed @Digit There is a statement that can be found online that proves it is a technique used to stop people from questioning things and sadly it works for a lot of "sheeple."

Sorry but I didn't notice the irony @Blutpumpe

It is clear that not all which is called “conspiracy theory” is the truth. There’s really some weird fantasy stuff out there.

funny guy. :P no, the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks.

lol

And it’s somehow hard explaining all of it, and not using the word “conspiracy theory”.

cant get there from here.

#orwell

;D

You’re repeating yourself,

with reason. that, on some level, you're well aware. you keep using the psyop term as if to validate it.

it's entertaining and encouraging to see you wrestle your way free of it. :) i'm just holding the space.

and don’t read/understand

n_n nah.

or deliberately don’t react on what I’m saying.

or, am satirically responding to precisely what you're saying, because of the same invalid thing said, that you're not fully accepting as invalid yet, despite professing to.

I’ll end the discussion here.

always amusing and damning to see that. lol.
fresh slab of arrogance and ignorance, offered as if some virtue. XD

And as hard as I look, I don’t find any synonym that covers all the meanings of it.

funny guy. :P no, the term conspiracy theory is still a psyop term designed and deployed to dissuade questioning/investigating authorities and crooks. ... and replacing it with words to the same effect is no remedy. the divisive barb must be extracted from deeper in your mind than the surface layer of interchangeable words.

;D

I think this wide range of meaning is, even if only by chancce and not by plan, part of the psy-op,

spares me pointing that out. :) gets many babies thrown out with bathwater, ~ and bathwater that was intentionally dirtied specifically to have the baby thrown out with it.

To my opinion, … the better it works.

I’m still missing your intelligent answer on this. Perhaps I didn’t formulate it in an easily understandable way. If so, please tell me.

*salutes* Yes Sir! Here's my answer on this. ;) i dont think you need seek validation from others/me in-general/on-this. ;) but ok, to elaboratively/additively confirm seeing similarly, yes, the more agent provocateurs, the worse the impact... perhaps... maybe up to a point, then incredulity starts seeping in from the cracks under the pressure. there be many strategies deployed... many reasons, many effects. seeking the cartoon simplicities is itself indicative of having succumbed to manipulative mind maps imposed. no one has the answer. yet the truth is out there. ;)

and i do apologise for the obtuse satirical tool i've fallen into using. (but am also still amused, so likely will carry on too, lol).

I don’t need validation from anyone. I just had some things I thought were fit to share in this thread.

yeah, that coulda been a dick-headed thing to say on my part. i took a gamble.

Calling someone a “funny guy”, and repeating the same sentence over and over again as if the other one hadn’t read and understood it the first time, while on the other hand ignoring valid things they have to say is bad behaviour, to say the least.

yeah, but, you get why, right?

because you kept walking into the trap... saying the thing that had already been established as the psyop phrase, re-perpetrating. ... even when acknowledging it is... which was amusing and perfect setup for the recurrent joke. juicy irony and satire, if you like the comedies. :D

satirical tool

you're a satirical tool. ;] [jk, thought maybe cruder humour might please some. lol] ;]

That’s why I try to keep serious when the tone of the other person is serious.

& deadpanners may indeed chase each other's tails around and around.

the most serious topics censored are often found spoken of in comedy. cui bono censor.

See above how I failed with my irony.

well if it was all intentional, then well played, setting up the joke setups for the recurring jokes is laying the comedy on thick. (stewart lee and richard herring would be proud). though some of the questions, and the progression, suggests to me it was legit unwitting re-perpetration of psyop (or witting, but, benefit of the doubt's always(?) worth hanging on to, if only for some deadpan ~ bold and brave, in faith of wit and wisdom of the audience/spectator/reader, lest falling into poe's law). them insidious memetics hide insidiously and spread insidiously. in them psyops. whether recognised as intentionally created or not yet, or the not at all.

And why do you apologise when at the same time you tell me you want to go on with it?

to save you and anyone else from the psyop, to retain the curiosity and the duty to investigate what's going on in the world, to disuade a paradigm of shutting yourself down obediently, to not make trained automatons of you, but conscious astute aware beings retaining faculties of clear thought, not duped into becoming unwitting destroyers and poisoners of your siblings, to help you see those who would attempt to poison and destroy you and your siblings by having you poison and destroy each other while thinking you're saving them.

"villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged."

"nobody involved in anything nefarious thinks of themselves as nefarious".

not to deny you the right to use that term, but to allow you your own decision with all infinite potential retained, ... "a fully informed public" as some more familiar language ascribed to aspire to the same i'm trying to word carefully [trying avoid orwellianized language, in english, is not easy, especially since the further accelerations of perversions by the perverted for imbalanced misconceptions of gains]. tis a minefield. or mindfield. so thanks for playing out here, for living, engaging. good to have a good think. :)

The truth is everywhere. I find it easier to grasp in my neighbourhood. The truth is, for example, that we have different opinions on whether it’s legitimate to use the term “conspiracy theory” or not, but, as it turned out, share the same view on the character of the psy-op it’s part of.

I have my own thoughts about the world “out there”. If it comes to politics I know that it’s unlikely to get any proof for anything. In fact, the only things I can be sure of are the ones I experience myself. All else is more or less unsure, and, yes, one could use that psy-op term for it.

If we know the truth, theories become facts.

that started well, but then after reading "the truth is", everything else just became noise. .... like the high pitch squeel some shops and places play to scare away young people who can still hear those frequencies, "the truth is" is a triple wammy of alarm bells there... big mountain of incredulity to get past, seeing that big mountain of certainty... "the" just the one, the singular "truth", the thing to seek, and to run away from those who have claimed to have found it, "is", sure certain. n_n

and wow yeah...

“conspiracy theory” or not, but, as it turned out, share the same view on the character of the psy-op it’s part of.

so, you're gonna keep using it... despite knowing to use it is to perpetrate the psyop on others... ?

or is this a part of the shared same view on the character of the psyop its part of that has not really sunk in for you yet, past the cognitive dissonance?

it's kinda like me with plastic packaging... i see myself putting more of it in the plastic bins, as if i know not to where, but i do know well enough at least, that it's going to the environment in which we're all in and depend upon. but i keep doing it. a way of not injuring myself on the stress of the horror facing me/us from all around. it's mal-adaptive. such things we need be aware of, if we are to find tractionable remedy. remedy, to all this re-perpetration, this bully's victim becomes bully, this dog-eat-dog race-to-the-bottom, chicken-and-egg-problem, victim co-perpetration regeneration. the more we face it, the more we can find the easy path of taking a comfort fast, to see what's out there, what horrors are in reach of mends, simply if one transcends.

(and since that ends on a lyrical rhyming quality, you know it's much more true... ... noh, the silly folly of our not-perfect logical grok of reality sensibilities and psychologies, manipulable bio-chemical physiological lenses. beneficial to have some several layers and angles of meta-awareness. see more traps, avoid more traps. & trigger traps to trap the trapper to untrap the forest.)

and since we keep yackin about truth... and i've started quoting things... here's another fave quote, relevant here...

"There's no shame in the truth."

(((which is also nice when you hear it garbled on repeat or as a morphing mantra, and it becomes "there's gno-shaman, the truth", or even "there snow shaman, the truth". hehe.)))